1) Anti-choicers are misogynists, no ifs, ands, buts, or discussion.
Why?
Simple really. If they cared about "life" they would be for forced organ, marrow, and blood donation. Well especially pro forced blood donation.
Why? Well each time you donate blood you can save 3 lives. EACH TIME. And you can do it every 6 weeks or so depending on how much you donate, what kind of blood you have, if it's plasma or blood, etc.We are talking about 26 lives PER YEAR for the average healthy adult. Compared to pregnancy blood donation is
A) Less invasive
B) Less expensive
C) Has less of a toll/recovery time
D) Hurts far less
E) Is less traumatic both physically and emotionally
F) Requires minimum workplace accommodations
G) -Also- may require, or be strongly advised, that you dramatically alter your lifestyle especially regarding "high risk" behaviors.
But most importantly
H) Also would affect men.
So naturally, even though it "saves lives" at very little real expense, and is thus the DEFINITION of "Pro-Life" they NEVER argue for it.
Because it affects men.
B) Less expensive
C) Has less of a toll/recovery time
D) Hurts far less
E) Is less traumatic both physically and emotionally
F) Requires minimum workplace accommodations
G) -Also- may require, or be strongly advised, that you dramatically alter your lifestyle especially regarding "high risk" behaviors.
But most importantly
H) Also would affect men.
So naturally, even though it "saves lives" at very little real expense, and is thus the DEFINITION of "Pro-Life" they NEVER argue for it.
Because it affects men.
They also are not for "sexual purity", as many anti-choice Christians claim to be. Why? They don't ever whine about paying for men's Viagra, meanwhile if a woman wants her insurance, that she pays for, pay for medication that she needs which prevents pregnancy, it suddenly becomes an issue. Because it affects women and not men, directly.
2) What kind of speech do YOU hear from anti-choicers?
I hear quite a bit of "Keep your legs closed you filthy whore" "If you have sex you consent to pregnancy!" "Don't spread your legs unless you're gunna have a baby!" nonsense. Basically a lot of slut shaming against women, that never even acknowledges that it takes two to tango. If a woman gets pregnant it's ALL her fault. But no, they don't forget men, they also have a lot of "What about the father? Shouldn't he have a say?"
"It's not fair to men that women can kill their babies but they have to pay child support if they run off!" "Women should have to get consent from the man in order to have an abortion!" Which all ignores that pregnancy happens inside a woman and never inside the other party.
3) Take a look at a great deal of their artwork. Most of it highlights the fetus, often making it seem much more developed than it actually is or claiming it to be younger than it is, while ignoring the woman completely.
Look at their more graphic works, you will see most are given a bogus story, and most don't go into WHY the woman had an "abortion" to begin with.
Look at their graphics, they portray women who abort as careless, easily controlled, or just a prop for the fetus. In many graphics they only include a zoom out of the uterus and no depiction of the woman whatsoever. Why? Because they just don't care about women, at all. Or if they do, they just don't like us.
Oh I'm sure I could come up with countless examples, however I'll just leave more to blog about later depending on what I run into.
Actually, the kind of speech I hear from people who don't like murdering babies typically consists of the following:" "I don't agree with killing babies."
ReplyDeleteSOME people say "You shouldn't have gotten pregnant" as though pregnancy was some kind of choice. Some people also say, "You should have killed your baby" as though not being pregnant is also some kind of choice. Pregnancy is a BIOLOGICAL FUNCTION, NOT a choice. You CAN choose to try to PREVENT pregnancy, if you don't mind either poisoning yourself or not havng the Sacred closeness put into the sex, but other then that, there are no choices involved. Technically, you can have the same choice to murder your baby as you can to murder your uncle, but, most likely, neither is an appropriate or "okay" choice, because, most likely, your uncle does not deserve to be killed, though there may be some exception for the case of your particular uncle. Of course, in the case of an unborn baby, there can NEVER be an exception when it's okay to kill them, because they CAN'T possibly have done anything wrong!
Nobody supports "forcing" anyone to do ANYTHING, in the case of abortion. We do, of course, also support not forcing the bay to do anything, such as die, either.
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Do you seriously know NOTHING about how antis speak? Here's a hint, it's all in the above. Now to tear apart your pathetic little rant.
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1) No one is talking about murdering babies, where the hell did that come from?
2) If you want it in YOUR uterus (hence it would be a "baby" to you because it would be cared about) that's ONE story, when you start telling people how THEY should feel simply because they have a functioning reproductive system ("Oh it's a baby to you because you're pregnant and thus yo should want to be automatically how you ACTUALLY feel is of no actual importance") it's completely different and that's a big misogynistic FUCK YOU.
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It's a natural process which may or may not be prevented through any series of preventative measures such as barriers, hormones, abstinence, spermicides, and sterilization techniques. Each method can and does fail, becoming pregnant really isn't much of a choice. Keeping a pregnancy however is.
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Pregnancy is a choice. But no one is talking about killing babies.
Seriously if you keep throwing around BS terms like "murder" and "babies", both which have nothing to do with the ACTUAL topic I will have to ban you to make room and time for those that actually know what the topic is.
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That is correct.
"NOT a choice."
But it is also a choice. My choice, I will NEVER be pregnant, if prevention fails I will abort ASAP. Sorry you don't like that you don't own my body. People (irresponsibly) waste thousands of dollars to get pregnant, while others spend thousands to prevent and/or end pregnancies. Seems very much like a personal choice based on personal preference to me. Hell some people don't want to get pregnant because of stretch marks and get someone who does want to be pregnant but not have a baby to do the whole pregnancy thing for them.
" You CAN choose to try to PREVENT pregnancy,"
Yes, yes you can.
" if you don't mind either poisoning yourself or not havng the Sacred closeness put into the sex,"
The fuck is that part about? No one is talking about poison, this isn't the dark ages where you'd make a low point poison which may or may not kill you but usually ended a pregnancy. We know better how to prevent and end pregnancies, we use hormones, copper IUDs, sterilization methods, barrier methods, spermicide methods, cervical caps and diaphragms. I mean no where in there do I see poison and I have no fucking clue what the hell you mean by "sacred closeness put into sex", are you incredibly intoxicated?
" but other then that, there are no choices involved."
Sure there is. You can try to prevent pregnancy, and if it fails you can end it. Lots of choices. Though it's true you can't just turn on reproductive function with an on switch, the choice takes a bit more effort than that.
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Exactly, no one is talking about either.
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Ummm yeah intoxication.
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1) No one is talking about "babies", humans or not, born or not, live or not.
2) There's lots of times when ending a pregnancy is justified. The only time it is not is when the pregnant party wants to continue being pregnant.
3) Being in a non consenting person's body IS wrong, and killing someone violating your body is just EXACTLY justified. It's self defense, full stop.
Rayvn, try actually talking to an anti some time. And this time, LISTEN to what they say to people they disagree with. I promise, the misogyny will come out like pus from a zit.
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